Leopard's new menubar is hideous

First off it is not a copy from VISTA It came from the linux community and has been around for at least 4 or 5 years I love it. the only thing they need to copy is the way it works in linux's Gnome desktop you have complete control of the amount of transparency and the color of the bar. Bill gates had no part of creating this Idea linux users have been using it for yearsall gates can do is copy as always nice Idea why not use it, I've been wanting it on my mac since I bought it I hate the grey glass bar with no color icons.

Too many commenters on this site sound like idiots. David is a large part of this website and this post is not ridiculous in any way. I for one completely agree with his comments and cursing his post (AS for one) is not an educated persons response to an opinion.

As others have pointed out, there is currently no way to turn this off and this will most likely see it's way into the final build considering that Apple made it a point to discuss this thoroughly in their keynote.

I absolutely agree. This is not an insignificant thing. The menu bar is one of the most fundamental elements of the Mac GUI. I've seen Window's users struggle to find the menu bar as it is (since they're used to seeing it on each window) -- and now Apple is going to make it even harder to see!

Why?? According to the Apple website: to let your desktop picture 'take center stage'? A desktop picture is background decoration! Some of us actually make a living doing work on our Macs.

Like anything else, some of us like it, some of us don't. I wouldn't worry about it one thing about the Mac Community, if they don't like something someone comes up with a hack to turn it off and go back to the good ole days. I'm running a hack on Tiger that simulates the new menu bar in Leopard and so far I like it just fine its not that drastic as some might think. Then again I'm used to translucent menu bars...

I think the new dock goes well with the rest of the desktop interface. Remind me of the dock in the Sun Looking Glass Project no biggie. I'm sure there will be a way to go back to the Tiger dock if you can't stand it but I'll be sticking with this until I get bored and make it transparent. Hopefully they update clear dock. I'm already using the new dock on my PC at work. There is a skin for object dock for those of you who have to use a PC at work.

I hope we find out that the background image they used and the translucent menu bar is some sort of joke.

@Jhonka

The Leopard Server desktop looks great, really liking the look of dock there, menubar looks easier on the eye too. I think you're right about that green grass background not helping.

I think it would have been better to have an option for the menu bar to automatically hide/show like the dock when you move the mouse to the top of the screen.

Maybe would be nicer if the menus were also transparent like menu bar - hopefully Apple will just put a slider for transparency in appearance to keep all happy.

wow 75 comments about a menubar

a clear or near-transparent menubar has always been on my wishlist, and i for one, am glad [whether they ripped it from vista or not] that it's going to be in leopard. i've always felt the menubar to be too prevalent to begin with, so welcome! another thought would be to have it come back from being transparent back to a non-xparent menubar upon the cursor being passed over it, the same as mouse-over feature for sites and other apps.

You wanted a hack to fix the menu bar?
http://blogs.ntugo.com/computers/2007/06/18/dont-like-leopards-transparent-menubar/