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Leopard: Should you upgrade?
Last night, during our weekly podcast, we ended up having quite the heated discussion about whether people should upgrade to Leopard now or not. In the end, we pretty much all ended up agreeing that many people should not. Here are a few of the points brought up. If you have only one computer and it's your production machine, don't upgrade. The 10.5 upgrade is a big one--not a small update, not a few bug fixes. Lots of stuff gets broken and if you need to keep getting your work done, just wait. Let a few dot releases ease things out.
If you work with Adobe software and need your software to work reliably, don't upgrade. Apple didn't get its gold master out to third party developers in time for the upgrade path to proceed smoothly. Everything was rush, rush, rush. Developers simply did not have the time to work with the final product and make sure their apps would be compatible. If you need Acrobat (and I do) or In Design, you need Tiger. Don't upgrade to Leopard.
If you work with Windows, don't upgrade. Windows networking isn't working so good, according to several of our panelists who need to connect to Win machines on a regular basis.
If you have a lot of system customizations, don't upgrade. Many customizer tools like APE (application enhancer) are broken with the Leopard upgrade. You can do a clean Leopard install but you probably don't want to upgrade at this time.
So what do you do if you really want to give Leopard a spin? I recommend dual booting. Keep your Tiger installation now for the real work and add a Leopard partition to play.
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Reader Comments (Page 1 of 4)
nagrom said 12:14PM on 10-29-2007
No problems here. Working in a windows environment, running Vista in a VMWare Fusion session. No problems connecting to other machines from either Vista or Leopard.
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Moose said 12:13PM on 10-29-2007
This was exactly the post I was looking for but hadn't seen yet - being on a production/Adobe CS3 machine, and yet wanting to upgrade. Cheers!
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Matteo said 12:16PM on 10-29-2007
I performed a clean install and must say Leopard works well. I used Photoshop CS3 and without a problem.
Must agree on some things however...
More apps than what I thought are struggling big time with Leopard. The first that comes to mind (and that I use a lot) is Aperture. TUAW covered that extensively. Apple better come out with a fix really soon!
Windows networking however worked much easier and better than it did with Tiger. But then again, it might be because of the clean install.
All in all I recommend updating to Leopard, but only to the people whose life is not "going to be put in danger (i.e. people who really use these tools for their jobs)" if some Adobe app doesn't work or if "Aperture" doesn't. I haven't checked Illustrator or Acrobat, but if TUAW says so, then....
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John Day said 12:20PM on 10-29-2007
The other major application that gets left behind with Leopard is FileMaker. Not much on this issue in TUAW yet.
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Think Twice said 2:20PM on 10-29-2007
So if I uninstall APE using their uninstaller I should be fine right?
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iGO said 12:26PM on 10-29-2007
For all of you that DON'T like the 3D dock when lacated at the bottom of your screen, Mac Pilot v2.3.6 can restore it to 2D, as an option setting. Leopard supported o'Course.
http://www.koingosw.com/products/macpilot.php
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redsnowant said 12:31PM on 10-29-2007
I'm a graphic designer, I live in Illustrator and Photoshop, I use Bridge, Aperture, Suitcase, Acrobat, Stuff-it etc haven't had any problems with the apps (fingers crossed) and I've gotta say Spaces is amazing!
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Steven said 12:31PM on 10-29-2007
@Johny Day:
Filemaker issues will be solved on november 18.
http://filemaker.com/support/leopard.html
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Johnny said 12:31PM on 10-29-2007
So InDesign has problems with Leopard despite what Adobe said in their FAQ? For shame.
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JR said 12:35PM on 10-29-2007
You can make the dock 2D with these 2 commands in Terminal:
defaults write com.apple.Dock no-glass -boolean YES
killall Dock
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halhiker said 1:29PM on 10-29-2007
My iMac G5 did not upgrade. It required me to erase my drive so when I went to exit it could not re-boot Tiger. I called Apple and they said my machine probably had a problem with the power control and logic board and they would be replaced free. I am planning on getting a MacBook when the new ones come out (tomorrow, please!) to see if I can salvage my data via Target Disk Mode transfer. Like an idiot I didn't back up some files. I hope I'm not screwed here.
If you upgrade--BACK YOUR FILES UP. I never had any problems before but this time--doh!
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drakhul said 12:41PM on 10-29-2007
Spaces ROCKS!
Have not noticed any issues thus far connecting to my Samba server or Win machines.
I did have to reinstall Acrobat Reader... Preview just does not cut it for viewing PDFs for me...
As a new Mac user, I must say this was a very painless upgrade. My MBP is only a month or so old, so that may have made a difference too, but I am used to major hassles upgrading Windoze machines.
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Allan L. said 12:45PM on 10-29-2007
Regrets: Half a day of my life wasted on a clean install, a misconfigured migration, an aborted manual update, and (finally) a good migration. Now I have an OS with ugly icons, an illogical and unreadable dock (stacks, mirror, 3d are not improvements for me!), a new challenge for version control (Time machine), and a bunch of utilities and programs that don't work (DiskinventoryX and, especially, Parallels 2.5). I haven't had an experience like this since I switched from a PC 3-1/2 years ago. Fortunately I have a bootable Tiger drive, but dual booting is a pain in the neck. I do hope it won't take a lot of time for these issues to be resolved. It's all understandable, of course: I mean, who could have imagined that this upgrade to OS X was coming?
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Galley said 12:41PM on 10-29-2007
I encountered the "blue screen of sadness", but an "archive & install" quickly fixed that. It appears that APE is installed by Logitech. Damn my Harmony remote!
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metin said 12:43PM on 10-29-2007
Oh great . . . now you tell me!
I installed Leopard as soon as I got home Friday night, with my new T-Shirt on the whole time.
Now my www (dot) com extensions don't work. I didn't even know where the (w) was on the keyboard this whole time.
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martin said 4:19PM on 10-29-2007
and what about Final Cut Studio???
Anyone tried it yet?
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Watcher said 12:49PM on 10-29-2007
Please, learn the proper use of "good" versus "well"
"Windows networking isn't working so good"
WRONG
"Windows networking isn't working so WELL"
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James Massey said 1:32PM on 10-29-2007
If you ever installed Java 6, particularly if you're a Java developer (you know: the ones that Apple wooed across from Windos and Linux for years) - be warned: your Java will be broken. Not only is there no longer a Java 6 for Leopard, ut the Java 6 that was available for Tiger is broken and I'm not sure how you can get Java 5 back. Apple really should have warned people on this one, because it's not a 3rd party app - it's theirs.
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wnelson said 12:57PM on 10-29-2007
Two production machines running all CS3 apps, and also running Parallels on one of them -- all quiet on the Western front.
Dedicating one Space to Parallels and turning off Coherence is _Righteous_.
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Ed Silver said 1:03PM on 10-29-2007
Windows Networking issues are really a problem, I can't seem to access my shared Mac OS X drives from my windows network at all, has anyone heard of a workaround for this?
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