Rumor: New MacBooks before the holidays

I Talked To A person in the Apple Store and they said they will get updated very soon. 2-3 weeks?

Apple Store lists new macbooks as of this morning.
Up to 4gb memory!

I'm not sure where people get the idea that the current MacBook (or any of the C2D Apple laptops, for that matter) is NOT 64-bit. It uses the Merom - same as a Santa Rosa laptop. Santa Rosa is just like Centrino - it's branding, and just means that a laptop fits a set of specifications, in this case, that the motherboard is Socket-P (which is what the upcoming Penryn, Merom's successor, will use), that the FSB is 800 mhtz, that 11n is used and that the integrated graphics is the GMA 950 successor, GMA X3100 or better.

In real world terms, the only benefit to the current MacBook is the improved integrated graphics (and they aren't that improved - they still suck - and I say this as an owner of the most recent MacBook) and the 800mhtz FSB, which isn't really that much of a benefit when the RAM is still running at 667. The 11n is the same as what Apple has been using pre-SR. The RAM capability issue is strictly a BIOS/EFI thing on Apple's part (the mobos on the current MacBooks and previous update MBPs can take 4 GB, they just aren't enabled to take that much) - and Apple might not open that up, but that isn't a hardware defecit, it's a manufacturer not wanting to lose out on upgrade sales.

Santa Rosa is NOT a chipset. It is a branding/platform. I'm not saying it doesn't have benefits over Napa - but Penryn is what will end up diferenciating C2D notebooks, SR or not, in the future -- not the fact that it has the SR branding.

I'm not sure where people get the idea that the current MacBook (or any of the C2D Apple laptops, for that matter) is NOT 64-bit. It uses the Merom - same as a Santa Rosa laptop. Santa Rosa is just like Centrino - it's branding, and just means that a laptop fits a set of specifications, in this case, that the motherboard is Socket-P (which is what the upcoming Penryn, Merom's successor, will use), that the FSB is 800 mhtz, that 11n is used and that the integrated graphics is the GMA 950 successor, GMA X3100 or better.

In real world terms, the only benefit to the current MacBook is the improved integrated graphics (and they aren't that improved - they still suck - and I say this as an owner of the most recent MacBook) and the 800mhtz FSB, which isn't really that much of a benefit when the RAM is still running at 667. The 11n is the same as what Apple has been using pre-SR. The RAM capability issue is strictly a BIOS/EFI thing on Apple's part (the mobos on the current MacBooks and previous update MBPs can take 4 GB, they just aren't enabled to take that much) - and Apple might not open that up, but that isn't a hardware defecit, it's a manufacturer not wanting to lose out on upgrade sales.

Santa Rosa is NOT a chipset. It is a branding/platform. I'm not saying it doesn't have benefits over Napa - but Penryn is what will end up diferenciating C2D notebooks, SR or not, in the future -- not the fact that it has the SR branding.

I happened to catch my local Apple reseller in Starbucks today. In our conversation he said that Apple is denying any upgrades to the macbook before Christmas and that they shouldn't be afraid to stock up. Take what you want from that.

Macbook Pro could also possibe to update the same time as Macbook I think. There's one possibility that Macbook Pro couldn't get ready for new update in January, if they can only give a stable new update until next June, what for them to update in Spring 2008 for MBP?
Holiday for sure the time for them to update Macbook as pricing is already 6 months old. PCs cannot acceptable for gifts with fixed prices after 6 months.

The bumps that were made to the MacBook Pros that took them to 2.2ghz and 2.4ghz, those were the ones that had the Santa Rosa in it? what was in the MacBook Pros that were out before this bump (the 2.16ghz one for example)

They will be coming next tuesday.

I tried buying one just yesterday in a store and they told me they had run out and Apple was not sending them any news ones currently.

Well, I bought a MacBook on Saturday. They offered me a free (totally unadvertised)printer (via rebate) with it, and politely, but very definitely, told me to be sure to remove the bar codes on this box to send in to get the rebate, and even showed me where. Then they repeated that about removing the bar codes, again pointing them out. After I got home and started reading the rumors about updates, I reconsidered my experience related to that printer. If I cut off the bar codes, it's not returnable, making having to pay for it something that might discourage my returning the MacBook if new ones come out. Therefore, I think they are coming, I think they are coming soon, and I have not opened the box yet, nor cut off the bar codes.

If there's any part of Apple's product line needing an update, it's the Mac Pro. Those systems are still first generation and over a year behind the technology curve at this point.