New 17-inch MacBook Pro unveiled with integrated battery

What's the score with RAM? Apple's at order or destroy the warranty doing any update yourself?

Battery? Not bothered. RAM? I might be. Rev A not being Quad and a Quad coming shortly is all that's holding me back...

If you're going through more than one cycle in a day, you're really a p-p-p-power user, and might need that MacBook Pro with the spare batteries.

But for most people, one cycle per day is more than average. With 1,000 cycles, that means more than 1,000 days before this battery slides into the valley of death. That's over two years of computing.

And let's face it: Most MacBook Pro users sell off their computer within two years and get the newest, greatest, bestest thing Apple has offered. So the built-in battery isn't going to be an issue for most users.

I wouldn't get one of these, but that's only because of the price tag and the fact that I don't need 17" of laptop. I'm quite happy with the unibody MacBook.

Meh. I don't really care about the battery issue. If Apple isn't lying this time and that 8 hour thing really is attainable, I don't really care about the non-replaceable issue.

With the MBA and this new 17", I'm guessing Apple will trailblaze the paradigm shift surrounding batteries. I'm guessing this move Apple made will have good consequences in the long term because making the batteries non-replaceable will force manufacturers to make better batteries, rather than making 2 separate batteries for every 'professional' out there. I mean, if my prediction is true, this will trickle down to smaller devices and in no time we'll all be enjoying days-long gaps between charges! (haha! )

I'm sure Apple's engineers have deliberated over this exhaustively to make this 'concession' against the probably minority-sized battery replacement fans as minimal a bump as possible.

The real problem here is... where's the new mini?!? I hate changing the subject when talking to prospective switchers about the hell-as-crappy, hell-as-obsolete GMA950! Other equally-priced machines are equipped with 4000MHDs/integrated GF9x00s already!

The amount of misinformation in these comments is astounding. You can add a portable power pack. You can use FireWire 800 with 400 products. Apple isn't only going after customers with money; that's why they have a consumer line and a Pro line. I am a bit skeptical of the lithium polymer battery being non removable, but hey that's the price of progress. And to the person who said "Lithium battery- is it safe?" - virtually every laptop out there uses lithium ion tech, and lithium polymer has been proven to be just as safe, if not safer, provided the battery manufacturer is reputable.

My god, do 3 minutes of research, please!

As a visually-impaired user, I depend on computers that are accessible and friendly on a daily basis. I am not very mobile, so at the moment, I do not carry a laptop. However, for ease-of-use, I am very glad I use a Mac.

The only reason I won't buy one of these new 17" MBPs is that I don't have the megabucks for it. However, the antiglare glass screen with higher, sharper resolution, updated graphics solutions, and LED backlight do make it a very attractive package for me, once I have the money.

As for a non-removable battery, I personally have never found that to be a big deal. I'm used to carrying assistive devices plus their chargers or power packs anyway. No change here for me.

This should have definitely been called the new Macbook Prayer (pro + air get it?)

Any word on how much upgrading your laptop will cost

Fuck you, Apple

I really wanted a 17 incher my next time aroundbecause i heard they were alot cooler (as in heat, not as in rad)...that's not happening now

So now I can have 8+ hours of frying my legs? I have a 2.4 Ghz Santa Rosa, and just recently watched (in horror) it go up to 100C while encoding video. This while running the fans at 5100 rpm full helicopter mode.

I'm not sure (other than as a statistic) when I would need 8 hours without plugging in somewhere? Very few plane flights are over 8 hours (unless you're overseas) and that's why I bought the magsafe airline adapter.

I don't get it. I'll be interested to see if the new 2.66 runs cooler over time.

I guess without Firewire 400, I can't put my Panasonic camcorder in it now with the cable that came with it?

Apple's not firing on all cylinders right now. I don't get it. Esata. Still need to buy a Sonnet card? I like that the hard drive is easily removable.

This is underwhelming news. I have the 15" unibody MBP and love it, but face it - this is just a 17" version with a better battery - move on. Is there another event coming tomorrow? Where are the announcements? I am very depressed. I sold my iMac in anticipation of a new mini.