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Apple will address MacBook Pro hard drive issue

Last week we reported on a thread at Apple's Discussion Boards about an issue affecting some 15" MacBook Pros. Specifically, their hard drives seem to be spinning down and even parking themselves at inappropriate times, like in the middle of a task. It's understandably frustrating, as that would slow things down considerably and offer unwanted "quality time" with the Marble of Doom. According to CNET, Apple is aware of the issue and working on a fix right now.

There's no word on when it will become available, so affected owners should just hold tight for a few more days. Note that one user on the discussion boards claimed to have fixed the problem by creating a new admin account on his machine. We haven't experienced the problem or replicated this fix, so take it for what it's worth.

CNET notes that the issue seems to be limited to the 15" model with a 5400 RPM drive, but at least one user in the discussion board claims to have swapped drives to no avail.

[Via MacNN]

Last week we reported on a thread at Apple's Discussion Boards about an issue affecting some 15" MacBook Pros. Specifically, their hard...
 

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jenkinson

I just called applecare for the 3rd time. They claimed that they have never heard of this issue. They offered to send me a new machine. I'll post back if this machine has the same issues.

August 18 2009 at 5:52 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
pendolino

gar - are you sure that simply rebooting into safe mode and then rebooting again to normal mode eliminates the problem?

August 18 2009 at 11:44 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Jash Sayani

Et tu Apple ?

August 11 2009 at 12:36 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
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madj42

I have the same problem with my late 2008 MacBook 13". I replaced the HDD with a Seagate 500gb 5400rpm drive and constantly get the marble of death every once and awhile. Drive just seizes completely.

August 11 2009 at 12:50 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Hickeroar

I've got the 500GB 7200rpm drive and I see this issue a few times a week...

August 11 2009 at 9:27 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Swoo

I have the new MBP 13" and it happens to me too. The machine will freeze for about 30 seconds and then return to normal. I hope Apple will release a fix for all MBP, not just the 15".

August 11 2009 at 1:56 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
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Hickeroar

The first article I read said it was limited to the 17", but that's obviously not true, so I'm sure Apple will release the patch across the board.

August 11 2009 at 9:29 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
gar

I have been getting this problem also, talk to apple tech support running through creating a new user and using that and finally they said lets reboot and go into safe mode (holding down the shift key when booting and hearing the chime 4 times before letting go). It took a while to boot up to safe mode. Then rebooting back into regular mode it fixed the problem. That spinning marble of doom doesnt come up no more at random times for 20-30 second stretches and everything works ok. You guys might want to give that a try.

August 11 2009 at 12:23 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
wheels

The problem seems to be focused on MacBooks with 7,200RPM hard drives.

If you delve a little further, however, and go into places such as non-Apple Apple product forums. where you can read from people such as Mac Mini modders, the clicking issue enters their domain as soon as they put a 7,200RPM drive into their Mini.

Then you can delve a little further and read that, yes, 5,400RPM drives experience this parking issue, too, only the majority of those drives are apparently so quiet that nobody can tell it's happening. That is, they can't tell until they run a SMART hard drive utility and see that their head parks are WAY out of line with the amount of time that their hard drive has been powered, sometimes MILLIONS of times vs. a couple thousand hours, and you realize something bigger is up.

http://www.123macmini.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=22797&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0&sid=b063c7deca1a2cad1463a0c9a4a83644

http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r21566852-WD2500BEVE-in-PPC-Mini-High-Load-Cycle-Count

Then, as you're sitting there, cogitating all this, listening to the hard drive in your PowerMac G4 MDD making little clicking noises (noises you think are normal, since you hear them all the time) and you realize, "HF, this thing's doing too."

This problem, IMHO, is rooted in OS X's Power Management system, and is affecting ALL systems running Leopard. But Vista user's can't rejoice about this, though, since Vista's doing the same thing - Although, from what I can tell, not as badly.

August 10 2009 at 7:00 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
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accolon

I can confirm the beeping and clicking for my MacBook Pro (Mid 2007). I replaced the HDD with a Samsung 320 GB drive (5400rpm) and got constant clicking. SMART confirmed that the drive was parking its heads every few seconds.

After using hdapm to disable the drive's own power management, the clicking is gone, but there are still those alarming shrieks once in a while.

August 11 2009 at 2:03 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
frank

any chance this firmware fix will help the MBP models that have a degrading heat sensor? : ) i love my MBP, but it's painful to watch the heat sensor problem get worse and worse over time. of course, it didn't start happening until it was well past its warranty date...

August 10 2009 at 6:51 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Mike Eggleston

I can tell you that it also affects the 5400 RPM drives. My wife's machine will suddenly, and without reason, go into spinning ball. Also when playing songs on iTunes, it will suddenly pause, and then start right back up where it left off. I have tried multiple different things, to no avail. This definitely seems like a Firmware issue.

At one point, it did not even fully boot at all; just got to the login and that was it. Had to go into Safe Mode, then rebooted it. Oddly, this seemed to clear up the boot issue, but it still every now-and-then freezes up the machine.

August 10 2009 at 6:28 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Patrick

My first-gen 15" MBP with the 7200rpm drive does not click or beep. It just works. Of course being a 100gb drive, it is sort of full.

But I know how annoying a beep can be so I am willing to step up and take one for the team and sacrifice my MBP in exchange for someone's unibody model with the beeping issue. It will be tough but I think I can cope.

j/k

August 10 2009 at 6:25 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
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