Is Tiger Crufty?

Wow, talk about "Your mileage may vary". I'm running a 12" PB 867Mhz 1GB RAM with Tiger and a packed screenful of widgets on Dashboard. No problems, CPU usage has been consistently lower since Panther. I've been happy enough about the new OS to have been called a paid shill on my own blog.

Yes, Tiger is absolute rubbish. I have had to disable Dashboard because it absolutely crippled my system. (PB 1.25 with 1.5GB RAM) No, I didn't do a fresh install, and I shouldn't have to. I'm a confirmed Tiger hater and am deeply disappointed with Apple for foisting this cruft on us. (For the record, I am normally a pretty level-headed Apple fanboy, not one of those losers who whine about every update "Why won't it work with my Centris 650!?")

to JC, try again, if you boot from the CD, erase the HD with disk utility and then try to install you will get that message. the trick is to erase the HD , then reboot to the install CD. If this is the problem you are having , you should then be able to install.

I have abandoned Tiger after two failed attempts. First time, I was using an overclocked CPU, and had major video artifacts. Second time, numerous problems such as: 2 fps iChatAV with Panther users, Audio-video sync problems when converting VHS tapes to DVD, Games in Classic hanging so hard that they force a reboot. Pretty much everything I use the machine for was non-functional with Tiger. TOTALLY UNACCEPTABLE! If I hadn't bought my Tiger copy 2nd hand, I would try to return it. Absolute rubbish.

For the guy who can't install Tiger on his 12" PB: Note that if your copy of Tiger came with a different model Mac, you can't install it directly onto your PowerBook.

Since I use more than one Mac, I've had different experiences, but I do believe that Tiger was rushed out for revenue reasons. I had the problem on one system of not being able to send mail. The problem got fixed with Tiger Cache cleaner. I had problems with Epson printer drivers. I also had one system where it wouldn't install until I formatted the drive. I did some updates with the three Linux distributions that I use in the same time period. I had some small problems there also, but surprisingly they were easier to fix. I think Apple could do a better job on bugs. In fact I know that Apple used to worry more about compatibility than they do these days. Having said all of that, I logged onto my Windows XP box for the first time in a week. It seemed like the next hour and one half was devoted to security stuff. I finally left and went to work on one of my Macs.

I haven't had any issues on my PB that came with Tiger installed. Panther never touched it. It is a brand new OS with some significant UI changes over the previous OS. I'd say that once Apple irons out a few of the bugs with future updates, it'll be as happily stable as 10.3.9.

I suspect it depends on the age of the hardware. I did a straight upgrade from 10.3.9 to Tiger, and have had no problems. Going on two months now.

I've had numerous major and minor problems with Tiger (many *new* Finder bugs, numerous Mail bugs - like losing a few years mail when importing, and now some major freezes when going to/waking from sleep) that all point to Tiger being definitely buggier than Panther. If you're on 10.3.9, sit tight - while there *ARE* many nice features in Tiger, the bugginess and general lack of polish just isn't worth it. Also, once you upgrade, you can forget about going back if you use Mail (and a few other Apple apps like Address Book) as their data format changed (thanks, Spotlight, for being so damned file-dependent).

I wouldn't say that Tiger is crufty. I did a clean install on a new HD, then copied all my data over to the new install. This is on a Sawtooth AGP Powermac with a 1.8Ghz upgrade processor. This is month #2 with not one problem, and I was expecting plenty. I tweak the crap out of my system. Still no problems. I feel for all those with problems though. ~m