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Mac 101: How to tell if an older app will run on OS X Lion

If you have a lot of older programs hanging around on your Mac, chances are some of them may not work correctly (or at all) after upgrading to OS X Lion. Most programs put out in the last few years should at least launch in Lion, though it may be some time before they run well. However, there is a certain older class of application that won't even open anymore once you install OS X Lion: PowerPC-only apps. Before upgrading to Lion, it's important to know if you have any of these apps still hanging around, because they'll be useless piles of ones and zeros afterward.

In 2009, Mac OS X Snow Leopard moved to Intel-only hardware and dropped legacy support for PowerPC Macs. Wisely (for the time), Apple kept support for PowerPC software as an option for Mac users running Snow Leopard. The PPC-enabling code translation technology, Rosetta, was an optional install for users who still needed the ability to turn PowerPC instructions into something the newer Intel processors could execute.

It's been six years since the announcement of the PowerPC to Intel transition, and with OS X Lion Apple has basically said, "Enough is enough," and relegated Rosetta to the software dustbin. In fact, one of the reasons Lion is a smaller install than Snow Leopard is the absence of all that PPC compatibility code in system libraries (which were shipping as 'fat binaries' before, and are now slimmed down to Intel-only).

The upshot for Apple is that's a lot less legacy code to worry about -- and unlike Microsoft's traditional approach, Apple is all about ditching backward compatibility for both hardware and software in the name of progress and streamlining. For a certain subset of users who are still running legacy PowerPC programs, however, it means transitioning to Lion may be inconvenient at best and financially ruinous at worst.

Retro Techs has a list of software that won't run on Lion anymore because of its PPC-free pedigree, and there are some pretty big (though to be fair, pretty old) names on it. Adobe CS2 and earlier are dead programs walking in OS X Lion, which is why I said upgrading might be financially ruinous for some users -- updating to the latest version of Creative Suite can be defined as "cheap" only if you're one to complain about having to tool around town in your BMW because your Jag is in the shop. Quicken for Mac won't run on Lion either, and there really isn't a one-size-fits-all alternative to the program.

Microsoft Office 2004 and earlier won't work under Lion, and neither will AppleWorks (remember him? Ha). Fortunately, Apple's iWork suite is a powerful (and inexpensive) alternative to both software suites.

Unfortunately, if you had some classic games like Starcraft and Diablo II still hanging out on your Mac, you're out of luck under Lion. If running classic games like those are critical to your "workflow," you might be best served by tracking down Windows versions of them (and a version of Windows) and running them in Boot Camp or in a virtual PC. If that sounds like a huge pain (it certainly does to me), you might be better off keeping an older Mac around with Snow Leopard running on it so you can still run PowerPC apps, or if you're geekily inclined you can partition the hard drive on your current Mac and dual boot into Snow Leopard (unless you're buying a new mini or MacBook Air that ships with Lion -- they won't boot 10.6). Partitioning and running Snow Leopard on another partition will also work for applications like Office 2004, but the question to "Is it worth the effort to do that?" is almost certainly going to be "No."

The easiest way to tell if you're still running any PowerPC applications on your Mac is to select "About this Mac" from the Apple menu, then go into System Profiler (now known as "System Information" in Lion, accessible by clicking on "System Report...") and check out the "Applications" list in the sidebar under "Software." Sort this list by "Kind" and take note of any apps you find that say "PowerPC" -- those apps won't run in Lion. Anything that says "Intel" or "Universal" is good to go.

Alas, poor MarbleBlast, I knew him well...

If you've been using Macs since OS 9 (in other words, for years and years and years), you might see another kind of app described as "Classic." Those apps haven't been executable on a PowerPC Mac since Mac OS X Leopard (10.5) and have never run on Intel Macs anyway, so chances are you found alternatives for those apps around four or five years ago.

Hopefully all that made sense. One thing worth asking yourself is whether the advantages of upgrading to Lion outweigh the disadvantages of discontinued support for your legacy programs. If you find yourself in a situation where you're financially dependent on Adobe CS2, Office 2004, Quicken 2007, or Starcraft (it could happen), then you may want to keep Snow Leopard as your OS of choice.



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It's been six years since the announcement of the PowerPC to Intel transition, and with OS X Lion Apple has basically said, "Enough is enough," and relegated Rosetta to the software dustbin.
 

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saadaldin

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January 05 2012 at 12:39 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Bob Bethune

You're going to roll over, assume an intimately vulnerable position involving space between your knees, and do what the computer industry tells you to do: buy stuff to replace the stuff you have that still works just fine, but which the computer industry has decided to force you to abandon.

The computer industry has been doing this for over forty years. They aren't going to stop now.

You'll do it now, or you'll do it later, but you will do it. You have no choice. Resistance is futile. Your wallet will be assimilated.

Enjoy!

December 08 2011 at 2:52 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Sean

There went all the cosmopolitan cities I created in SimCity 4...sigh.

July 22 2011 at 11:04 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Seth Goldman

How do I get additional columns to display in System Report? When I look at the applications, I just see the name and version information columns.

July 21 2011 at 1:15 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
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Seth Goldman

Figured it out. I needed to make the window larger and then additional columns appeared. Somewhat counterintuitive.

July 21 2011 at 1:58 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Patrick Chinn

Drag the right edge of the window to make it wider. The columns are there.

July 21 2011 at 2:52 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Meredith McKay

What's the big deal with dual booting? It's not very convenient, but it's easy to set up (and free).

July 21 2011 at 11:10 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Vera Comment

eyes up SONOS users - got this via email today (pays to check the spam folder once in a while!)

The new Mac OS X 10.7 (Lion) release is not compatible with your current Sonos system if your Music Library is stored on your Mac.

We will have an update to your Sonos Desktop Controller for Mac very soon and will notify you when it is available. In the meantime, please stay with your current version of OS X.

the update I got this am (to the desktop software v3.5) is to support their new Play3 hardware.. it doesn't address the problem above.

July 21 2011 at 10:59 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Tyler Whitworth

Or gee, you could just do something wild like not upgrading to Lion. Weird I know, but I won't be upgrading for a while.

July 21 2011 at 10:16 AM Report abuse -1 rate up rate down Reply
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Nick Kay

Well, like the article says -- if you're buying a new mac mini or new mac air - thanks to apple's lovely policies, they will NOT run snow leopard! They seem to know what's best for me, I wonder if they can wipe my ass after using the bathroom too.

July 21 2011 at 10:43 AM Report abuse -1 rate up rate down Reply
GoMommyGO

I feel the same way, Tyler, and didn't upgrade after finding some of my programs wouldn't work if I did. I posted a note here: http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?p=14368246#post14368246

February 22 2012 at 3:24 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Greg

Even Adobe CS4 is not 100% compatible. There are a significant number of helper programs that are written for PowerPC. Apparently Adobe believed that Rosetta would be around forever. I find it hard to understand why they have not updated CS4 code to be compatible with Lion. It will not force most of us to upgrade, but rather to switch to alternative software.

July 21 2011 at 10:13 AM Report abuse +1 rate up rate down Reply
Britonius Maximus

Yes, what about Universal listed apps as most of mine say Universal. I may just have to upgrade one system to test all the software on it before I move them all (or most). I also have a handful that show no kind whatsoever, but most of them should not be an issue.

July 21 2011 at 9:58 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
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Hone Melgren

Universal apps contain both Intel and PowerPC code in them.

So they should be fine.

July 23 2011 at 2:23 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
iratechnologies

I was running Parallels Desktop last night and a window popped up and said that 4 (which I run) will not work for Lion. And that I must buy the latest version. I check ed the System Profiler and it's and Intel based App. ??? Anyone experience problems after Lion with older Parallels?

July 21 2011 at 7:51 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
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misterbleepy

gave up with parallels when they pulled the same stunt when I upgraded to 10.4 - Virtualbox all the way now ;-)

July 21 2011 at 9:26 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
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