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Why you shut down OS X as you do

There has been a spate of interest in Windows Vista's convoluted shutdown process started by this Joel on Software post. Fuel was added to the fire when Moishe Lettvin blogged about the design process that was involved with the 'shutdown feature.' The short version: lots of people, lots of meetings, and very little actual code was involved.

We can compare Microsoft's process with Apple's thanks to this post by Arno Gourdol, formerly lead of the Mac OS X Finder team. Not too surprising Apple's process was much more straightforward and involved less people. However, lest you think that all is roses and candy corn in Cupertino, one Apple exec insisted that the 'Log Out' function should have a keyboard shortcut. Not a horrible idea, right? How about if I told you the key combo that exec wanted to use was Cmd + Q? I can imagine many people trying to quit an app and logging out instead. Luckily, cooler heads prevailed and Shift + Cmd + Q was the chosen one.

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Catt

Hey Scott nice post. Thanks for the links.

November 29 2006 at 7:53 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Andres

"7. What's the shortcut for "Put the display to sleep" again?"

Is there a shortcut for this? I hate to go to the "Energy Saver" everytime I want to turn off the display while downloading something (and then having to wait a minute.)

November 29 2006 at 3:45 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Fritz Laurel

That executive must've been the same "numbskull" (props #13-wheels) who changed the Cmd-N in the finder to be new window instead of new folder like it used to be. That one still gets me every time.

Cheers,
FL

November 29 2006 at 2:45 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Mike

Does anybody here sleep their ibook and stick it in its travel case to lug around? Is heat generated while its sleeping or should I shutdown before I tuck it away?

I've been adamant about shutting down before taking it off to school with me, but is that always completely necessary?

November 29 2006 at 12:12 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
pixelslut

Well i take issue with his assertion that you dont need "Log Out". In many environments (read, networked) you want the users to actually LOG OUT. Meaning thier accounts' session is closed, if using network homes everything is synched back up to the server from the local cache, all programs are exited, etc.. While Switch User is an optional feature that could be included or not Log Out is necessary. In fact i jsut recently had an issue where one of my network users was simply "locking" her computer instead of logging out - it was wreaking all kinds of havoc with certain networked applications and services. If anything there should be a minimum of 2 choices (on any OS really):

Shutdown/Restart
Logout


Now if you want to add the following 2 you can:

Switch User/Lock
Sleep

November 29 2006 at 12:04 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
wheels

"Apple exec insisted that the 'Log Out' function should have a keyboard shortcut. Not a horrible idea, right?"

Ha! I curse that exec every time my finger slips.. That guy must be the same numbskull who insisted that the key combination to rebuild the desktop in OS9 must be held the whole time during {the painfully slow] startup.

November 29 2006 at 11:57 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
will

Sounds like a lot of hot air over nothing to me. So it gives you different options for shutdown. Woo. Convoluted? No. Convoluted would be a series of 3 popup windows, a scrolling text box license acceptance window, and a confirmation dialogue making you type in "SHUTDOWN" in all-caps. There's plenty of things in Windows that are convoluted; this isn't one of them. The Zune software installation - now THAT'S convoluted. Seriously, the time it took to write (or read!) the three articles about shutting down windows took at least 10 times as long as it takes to choose a shutdown option from windows' start menu.. Seriously, I'm pretty sensitive to UI issues, and I have a lot of complaints about lots of software and OS's, but this one just doesn't trigger any frustrations for me, so .. it just seems silly to me to see three (not short) articles going on and on about it. :p

November 29 2006 at 10:44 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Stephen Silver

I still think there should be a log out feature in the fast user switching menu. I have my daughters account set up on my G4 at home, and when I need to free up some processing power, I need to log out her user, as well as my girlfriends user from time to time. I go to the top right corner to switch to that user, then back to the top left corner to log out, and then repeat until all unneccesarry users are logged out. There are probably shortcuts or terminal commands to make this task easier, but since I never spent the time to research this, I jsut counted on OS X to offer an intuitive gui interface. they need to fix this.

November 29 2006 at 10:40 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Joe Clark

“Shut down” is a verb phrase. “Shutdown” is a noun. Correct the headline, please.

November 29 2006 at 9:30 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
ephraimephraim

Back in System 6 days I added menu shortcuts for shutdown and restart: Command-. and Command-, (that's command-period and command-comma). Since command-. already meant "abort", you can imagine the hilarity that ensued. I've used the menus ever since.

November 29 2006 at 9:24 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
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