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Apple has the "least green" data centers

Apple has come in last place among a list of tech companies in the latest Greenpeace tech report How Dirty is Your Data? [PDF]. While Apple has made some pretty big strides over the last few years in trying to eliminate environmentally unfriendly chemicals from its products, Apple placed last in this list due to its heavy reliance on coal power at its data centers.

The report compares energy consumption and sources made by Apple, Facebook, Google, Twitter, IBM, Microsoft, HP, Akamai, Amazon and Yahoo. In it, Greenpeace points out that Apple's new North Carolina data center, which is set to open this year and will supposedly be primarily used for cloud-based computing services, will triple Apple's energy usage and use the same amount of energy as 80,000 US homes. Of that energy, 62 percent will be provided by coal (one of the dirtiest energy sources), and 32 percent of it will be provided by nuclear power.

This isn't the first time Greenpeace has expressed concern over Apple's energy footprint regarding cloud computing. In March of last year, Greenpeace also expressed concern about the North Carolina data center that runs on "dirty coal power."



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I believe that data centers should take up a green initiative to save the environment. Check out this video and find out how is that possible...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b52ESzpNFHA

April 26 2011 at 2:05 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
JKT

It's really disturbing how many anti-environmentalists are posting here. You'd all rather slam GreenPeace than use this report as the useful suggestion that it is meant to be. Geez, get defensive much? If you all represent the country's attitude as a whole, we're even more screwed than I thought.

April 21 2011 at 11:07 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
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TIm

Amazing .. isn't it and very very sad.
I can't believe how many wackos believe in Glen Beck & Co and their "global warming is a lie" bollocks. I mean, just open your freaking eyes and look at the world out there changing .. how can you deny that?

Plus .. if anything only-potentially anti Apple is ever posted, a lot of folks get very defensive for some weird reason .. actually I am amazed no one has called out Google yet ..

T.

April 22 2011 at 5:36 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Dan

And I bet you believe everything you see in a Michael Moore movie too.

April 22 2011 at 1:30 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
AK

Hey - WTF people.. it's OK to be critical of AAPL - that's how things improve... I don't think Jobs is happy with the BofD in general at AAPL.
...they gettin' greedy! We can and will power 'our' future with sustainable energy - we need to fund - perhaps with the resources ( leases ) we give away to the 'Energy Industrial Complex' ( OIL-COAL ) ... Anyone hear about the big pool of melted ice water ( fresh not salt ) floating near - where the Gulf Stream drops - off N. Europe... Well - the Pentagon did a study in 2003 - all about Europe freezing over - Radical weather changes occuring starting around 2010 ( ok ) by 2015-2020- looks bad! Yes Global Eco Disruption will cause ( can/could? ) radical climate changes - including - darn it's getting colder here!
Anyone posting here - ever talk to the 'folks' that live where the mining companies are blowing the tops off mountains - or the 'folk' who live downstream - from where the tops of the mountains fall into the rivers ... WAKE UP - I own their stock AAPL - and the board voted down some of the most progressive motions I've ever seen a couple of years back.
... It's like who wants free health care - ME! If you don't - you're an idiot!
... I know the healthcare system - in it's current state - like many things ( Banks ) one might suppose the MOB is running things ...
People ... Get a grip ... goodnight and good luck !

April 21 2011 at 8:59 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Beenyweenies

Rather than shooting the messenger (Green Peace), and insisting there's nothing Apple could do to fix this, why not look at the companies on the list who BEAT Apple? What are they doing differently? If they can do it, so can the most profitable tech company on the planet.

Apple's fanbase are turning into the most vile turds on the internet these days, like a bunch of jihadists who jump all over anything that isn't solidly in favor of the mighty Apple. Time to grow up, kids.

April 21 2011 at 8:37 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
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barry

We are fully grown. Apple gets nailed for 1 extremely large data center that other companies wish they had in the "wrong state" End of story. Move along.

April 21 2011 at 11:31 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
jssneddon

I'm pretty sure the people of Fukushima would have been grateful to have a coal powered plant destroyed rather than their nuclear plant.

Greenpeace? Really?

April 21 2011 at 5:18 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
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JKT

Do your homework. Japan is an island. How exactly do you propose they get the amount of coal required to such a plant? Coal plants in this country receive DAILY trainloads of coal. Shipping that much coal is not practical.

April 21 2011 at 11:00 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
anthony.novelli

Aside from the anti-environment idiocy expressed here, questionable metrics used by GP, and Apple's laudable approach toward cleaning up its manufacturing process (nobody else would even try to compete there), energy consumption is worth considering as an impact. Technology is moving toward greater efficiency all the time, but in a place like the Carolinas, the grid is what it is and whoever would plug in would get bad marks. Wind and solar are very practical alternatives, and the techniques for adaptation to daylight and windy cycles are advancing all the time (see current articles on use of seawater as electrical storage).

Perhaps this will set a fire under Apple with its vast war chest to see that Google is doing one thing right with it's huge investments in renewable energy. It would be interesting to see the two compete in that area... iOS inverters anyone?

April 21 2011 at 5:14 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Dan

Here in CA, Apple was a big supporter of AB32, the Global Warming Solutions Act and Gov. Failure (Schwartszenegger) pushed for it and signed into law when it passed to have some legacy tht would hide all his ineptness. This act puts severe restrictions on businesses energy use, etc. After supporting this bill, Apple built its server farm in NC to get around the bill. Way to be hypocritical, Steve. Love your products, hate your left-wing loopiness . .

April 21 2011 at 4:55 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
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shippster

Dan, don't be so reactionary. You are assigning motives to actions without any real connection. Apple probably chose NC for a bottom line reason primarily based on tax incentives, not skirting an energy bill they supported.

I don't live in NC, so I don't know about it, but there could be a lot of factors governing their choice to use that energy source. Perhaps clean energy companies are not prevalent in the are and/or cannot provide enough for their demand in that area. I would assume they do a good bit of coal mining in NC and people may see clean energy as unemployment, causing there to be less choice in clean electricity providers.

No one from greenpeace actually went inside that building, so they do not even know what measures are being used to reduce energy.

I am not saying Apple is doing their best here or should not consider change, but we have very few facts to base opinions on here.

April 21 2011 at 5:30 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
btblomberg

I know I wouldn't want a huge datacenter built in fault line country. North Carolina is better, but not the best. N. Dakota, Minnesota, Iowa, Wisconsin and Texas have little to no seismic activity. Likely they received a nice tax break for building there. I doubt their intentions were to avail California enrgy laws.

April 21 2011 at 6:29 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Quinn Taylor

They seem to happily gloss over the fact that they *estimate* power usage based on size of the building. If they don't start from actual data on how much power Apple's data center *actually uses*, their entire analysis is suspect. I suspect that Greenpeace is actually far from the truth; Apple has paid a huge amount of attention to environmental impact in recent years. Call me when they have real data.

April 21 2011 at 4:45 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
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Ron

Agreed. There is no way they know how much power it is taking if they are merely going by building size!

April 21 2011 at 6:34 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Nathan78

This greatly offends me more than anyone would ever realize! Thank you for bringing this valuable news to the public. I will now begin to sell all my Apple products, there is no excuse for such irresponsibility on Apple's part... Shame on them!. My wonderful apple products just aren't worth destroying my planet!

April 21 2011 at 4:43 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
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james_t

Without an organization like Greenpeace corporations would do as they please without a care of public scrutiny. The argument isn't to move out of NC, it's to put the spotlight on companies that profit billions of dollars per year and don't take certain environmental consequences into play when constructing their products.

I'm an Apple fan boy like the rest, but when a company profits such large amounts and doesn't stop to consider their impact on the environment, you should be questioning where their priorities are. Which bring up the question, many corporations have charities and foundations, what does Apple have?

April 21 2011 at 4:40 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
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bjbouch

I expect the assumption is that Apple is purchasing it's energy from the local power company. It's a pretty easy task to enter into a contract with energy providers that deal in clean energy.
We do have to be careful about demonizing companies, individuals, and forms of energy. We can not realistically shut off all forms of energy that produce unwanted environmental side effects.

We do need to reduce demand through greater efficiency, increase adoption of zero emission energy, AND find ways to mitigate negative effects to our environment using the abundant resources available in this country.

April 21 2011 at 5:20 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
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