Shooting at Apple Store in San Diego leaves one robbery suspect dead
NBC's San Diego affiliate is reporting that an early-morning attempted theft at the Apple Store at Otay Ranch Town Center turned deadly when one of the alleged participants in the smash-and-grab attempt was shot and killed by a security guard.
Police told the TV station that the incident occurred right before 7 AM Pacific Time this morning, before the store was open. The store manager was already working inside the store when three suspects smashed the glass doors at the front of the store; they were confronted by the guard. The guard told police that the exchange of fire began when one of the suspects produced a handgun.
The three would-be robbers crashed their car nearby in an attempt to escape. One male suspect was shot and killed by the guard; the other two suspects, a man and a woman, were arrested shortly afterward in a nearby residential area. Store employees identified the surviving suspects as the same people who had attempted to break into the store.
Apple stores that maintain storefronts on public-access streets, unlike those within enclosed malls, are frequently subject to glass-break theft. In 2009, an employee at the Clarendon store in the Washington, DC suburbs was shot and injured during a robbery attempt.
Attempts to reach the Otay Ranch store by telephone were unsuccessful.
Thanks to Lee for the heads-up.
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NBC's San Diego affiliate is reporting that an early-morning attempted theft at the Apple Store at Otay Ranch Town Center turned deadly...
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you should check out the apple store in Naperville, il. They have been a victim of the snatch and grab for the third time yesterday since Sept of last year.
April 06 2011 at 10:05 AM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down ReplyI'm always happy to hear that a little bit of Darwinism has been applied to the bad guys.
April 05 2011 at 1:14 PM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down Replyactually iAlejandro has a point that is quite easily verified. The car the perpetrators drove crashed after the driver was shot in the head.
That means they were fired on while fleeing. Simple as that.
Restatement:
To clarify, based on the facts as stated in the three articles about the situation I have read, the amount of force used will be an issue. The alleged robbers appear not to have been endangering the guard when one was shot. And, firing in a public area is always discouraged by responsible police departments. When I worked for a firm that represented a police department, firing a weapon outside of the rules was grounds for dismissal. Most shots fired do not hit their targets, so civilians are put at risk.
I appreciate Alejandro speaking up despite the festive tone of most comments. Taking a life is always a serious matter.
"Taking a life is always a serious matter. "
1 dead crook = saved taxpayer money and one less crook on the streets
I won't shed a single tear for the crook or his accomplices. He brought a gun, he deserved what he got. Natural selection wins again.
The amount of force used is perfectly justified. The guy was armed and presented a lethal threat. So, he was met with lethal force. His accomplices capability of delivering lethal force is an unknown factor. Once their buddy drew a gun, they both became viable targets as well.
Mac Diva, it's too bad that you, and that other guy you sound like, use the occasion of a sad death to strut like legal peacocks. You know nothing about what happened, aside from web articles. I don't care if you read three of them, or thirty. But a lack of details sure doesn't stop you from pontificating like a Supreme Court justice. To come off like you corner the market on compassion is the opposite of compassion.
Try to get your self worth from your own life, not from a man who died in a smash and grab Apple store theft, brandishing a gun.
The amount of force used will be an issue. The alleged robbers were not endangering the guard when one was shot. And, firing in a public area is always discouraged by responsible police departments. Most shots fired do not hit their targets.
And, yes. I am qualified to express a legal opinion. (Sigh. Wrote a student loan check for that degree today.)
People need to accept some responsibility for their actions. If they pulled a gun, they got what they deserved and guys like you shouldn't be making excuses for them. Send the guard a Judge Dredd t-shirt.
It's relevant because California, like Texas, also adopted the "Stand your ground" rule or doctrine. You are right we don't know yet what will transpire however from reading the article there was some question as to whether all three suspects fled THEN one was killed by a security guard.
That was the issue I was discussing that when assailants have fled you can't pursue them and gun them down. The same applies to home defense or the "Castle Doctrine". As a resident you do not have to retreat from your home when assailants are breaking in, you can use deadly force. However if the assailants are in retreat you can no longer use deadly force if they are outside your home running away. This applies to businesses as well.
Most states including California have adopted this.
There are many uninformed points to be made. You made yours well, both times.
April 04 2011 at 6:29 PM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down Replyyep, your right but the security guard shot the fellow while he was in the ACT of committing a crime, not as he was in his car speeding away. He LATER died of his injuries, not that he was shot and killed after the incident.
April 04 2011 at 8:04 PM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down ReplyI've only read the article here but I'm assuming the security guard killed one of the suspects in the store?
Once the suspects have withdrawn a security guard cannot actively pursue a suspect and gun them down. The "stand your ground" rule applies to security guard defending the store and only there. At least in Texas. A security guard has the same power and authority as an ordinary citizen.
Yes, my educational background is Criminal Law, Michael Rose.
There goes my get rich plan of rubbing the Fifth Ave store.
April 04 2011 at 3:19 PM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down ReplyExpect that security guard to be the subject of a wrongful death suit. You do not kill someone over a piece of property. Unless the guard was being threatened personally......
April 04 2011 at 3:11 PM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down ReplyLocal Fox news have a little more information and video interview with the police. A few schools in the area were in lockdown.
http://www.fox5sandiego.com/news/kswb-police-investigate-shooting-at-shopping-center-20110404,0,4434605.story
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